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		<title>Responding to the &#8220;Antigua&#8217;s List: Girls&#8221; hype</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 04:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Moo Cow</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find it funny how chicks selectively make mountains out of molehills. Besides the “expectancy complex” that some of them have, some of them are caught up in a self inflicted struggle to always be the phuq-ing “victim” and make a “women’s issue” out of everything. Isn’t that Lifetime’s job? Really, I don’t mind being [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it funny how chicks selectively make mountains out of molehills. Besides the “expectancy complex” that some of them have, some of them are caught up in a self inflicted struggle to always be the phuq-ing “victim” and make a “women’s issue” out of everything. Isn’t that Lifetime’s job?<span id="more-1517"></span></p>
<p>Really, I don’t mind being painted as “the bad guy” for the whole thing but what probably annoyed me the most was how much I was misquoted and misrepresented in a lot of the resulting responses of my <a title="Antigua’s list: girls" href="http://beefpattie.com/antigua%e2%80%99s-list-girls/" target="_blank">previous post</a>. Never once did I address any chick directly as a “bitch”, “slut”, “whore” or anything of that sort yet I see that one blog’s author stated that I did so a total of 42 times and I was degrading “womyn”. Why; because I said “chick”? Leave it to the feminists to take a term of endearment and turn it into one of oppression.</p>
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<p>When the post dropped last week everyone (male and female) was laughing and looking forward to seeing it. As in expected Beef Pattie fashion, it was going to be a REAL post and this time it was going to give a comical insight to the world of guys and what we thought and talked about. Everyone saw it that way in the days leading up to the full post and even hours after. Things were going all well until one of these “women on a mission” read it and took everything COMPLETELY out of context and made it her business to “seek souls” for her cause in a Brother Connie-esque manner.</p>
<p>I really don’t see how guys openly stating their opinions can be seen as the worst thing to happen to women since the breast cancer epidemic (because that’s how some of them made it sound). Saying stuff about someone behind their backs is much worse if you ask me. If anything, the post probably had three or so somewhat “negative” categories at most. The others were us highlighting and showing appreciation for chicks. I’m sure if chicks were all REAL with themselves, they’d admit that in their circles they probably have their own thoughts and opinions on dudes in the same fashion that we did. So what if we went public with ours?</p>
<p>Yes, I’ll admit that organizing the list and publishing it was juvenile but that was the fun part about it; the post was for yucks and giggles. Do you really have your head so far up your own @$$ that you couldn’t see that? I took special consideration to not bring about categories that were grossly “negative”. It really could have been a lot worse since we guys do talk about some pretty messed up stuff. The majority of the post itself was talking about the reasoning and the process behind the list and not the list itself; did you even read the preceding paragraphs? <span style="color: #000080;"><em>I’m talking to the pissed off chicks here.</em></span></p>
<p>In any case I did offer a disclaimer which stated that if you were a chick you should not continue reading since it was for the eyes of guys ONLY. If you continued reading and got pissed off about something then cry me a freaking river and blame your own damn self for not being able to follow SIMPLE instructions <em><span style="color: #000080;">*insert reference to Eve and the garden of Eden here*</span></em>. Step your reading and comprehension skills up!</p>
<p>Beef Pattie aims to be the most REAL blog out there and in achieving that goal of course toes are going to be stepped on. It wouldn’t be “a blog so REAL it’s in high definition” if I pussyfooted around things. If you can’t handle REAL then you should probably be off reading something milder that caters to your inability to see the bigger picture behind of most of the posts. You can “put Antigua’s young male ‘authors’ in your prayers” all you want and openly “hate” on the blog, but the fact remains that in doing so you’ve helped keep Beef Pattie in the mouths of many. I thank you guys so much for spreading the “good word” of Beef Pattie and helping to achieve a viewership of over 20,000 in just three days. Really couldn’t have done it without ya’ll.</p>
<p>Really though, if you “womyn” are that bored and have no men to make sandwiches for (was that sexist?), then maybe you should go protest in front of every club or radio station that plays dancehall music. That genre is a million times more degrading and disrespectful to chicks than anything I’ve ever said on here. I do hope none of you go clubbing either…</p>
<p>Oh, and to those Afrocentric “womyn” whose only reason for hatin’ on the post was because I allegedly “worshipped the females closer to European descent” by saying that Consuelo is probably the best looking chick in Antigua: “They’ll always be haters; that’s the way it is. Hater niggaz marry hater bitches and have hater kids!” (you guys) <strong>–Kanye West</strong></p>
<p>…MAN UP!!!</p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;">P.S.: I have nothing against real feminists; just the ones who masquerade as them and in actuality are male bashers.</span></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #000080;">*drops the issue because talking about this damn &#8220;list&#8221; is getting HELLA OLD*</span></em></p>
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		<title>Guest commentary: A woman’s perspective of the “Antigua’s list: girls” controversy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 04:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Moo Cow</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You  know, I really wasn’t going to give this topic the time of day but a female reader e-mailed me Tuesday morning requesting make a guest commentary on my previous post. Usually my post previews would come out on a Wednesday but I’m pushing it back another day to grant her request. See? I’m not [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #000080;">You  know, I really wasn’t going to give this topic the time of day but a female reader e-mailed me Tuesday morning requesting make a guest commentary on my previous post. Usually my post previews would come out on a Wednesday but I’m pushing it back another day to grant her request. See? I’m not that much of a bad guy! I guess I’ll probably post my two cents after…</span><span id="more-1505"></span></p>
<p>It all started with a poll. A poll so amazingly controversial that it caused some to delete their entire Facebook profiles altogether, others to take up the mighty feminist sword and swing with all their might. A poll that was intended to merely “step on toes” but ended up crushing the hearts and souls of many. Am I being sarcastic? I wish I was, but believe it or not, folks, all these things (among other things that I don’t know about) actually happened…because of a poll.</p>
<div id="attachment_1507" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-1507" href="http://beefpattie.com/guest-commentary-a-woman%e2%80%99s-perspective-of-the-%e2%80%9cantigua%e2%80%99s-list-girls%e2%80%9d-controversy/olympus-digital-camera-2/"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1507" title="Mark ya &quot;X&quot;" src="http://beefpattie.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/vote-300x200.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="200" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">&quot;The Poll&quot;</p></div>
<p>I really don’t want to get too mixed up in all of this, and personally I think this whole situation reflects foolish and immature mindset of all involved. There are starving babies in the world, Japan is facing a nuclear meltdown, and here we are kicking up because of a poll that wasn’t even serious. What I seek to do instead is analyze this poll and all the arguments attached to it and the effect it had on all parties involved, and see what the hubbub is all about. Hopefully with this evaluation we can find some closure to this whole situation and move on to more important issues.</p>
<h2 class="blog_heading">Background to the poll (just in case you’re living under a rock)</h2>
<p>This poll was based on one guy’s crazy idea, inspired from a previous poll (which, not surprisingly, apparently had similar effects to this one in question) to make a list “that would be the end all definitive ‘bible’ when it came to the stuff guys argued over in the realm of chicks”. This list was categorized according to stuff that “guys argued over the most”, and was narrowed down to 10 categories: Butter Face, Menstruating Barbie, Most Delusional, Nuffest, Surprisingly “Down to Earth”, Best Personality, Best Body, Cutest Face, Overall Crissest, and Most Datable Girl. Over 500 guys between the ages of 18-27 participated in nominating and voting for the winners of each category, and a description of this poll and the categories and the names of the top 5 nominees as well as the winner of each category were posted in a blog post that you can <a title="Antigua’s list: girls" href="http://beefpattie.com/antigua%e2%80%99s-list-girls/" target="_blank">view here</a>.</p>
<h2 class="blog_heading">“The results are in”</h2>
<p>If you didn’t know what effect this had, I’m sure by now that you can guess: most guys and a few girls were laughing, while most girls and a few guys were not. Like many of you who are friends with those involved, I woke up on the Saturday morning after this post hit to a flood of mixed status reactions and “cuss-outs” in my newsfeed, and some of these statuses had over 30 comments. The arrows continued to fly all weekend, and then the cannon was rolled out on Monday, in the form of an article entitled, “Barbies, Bitches, Chicks, Sluts, Whores and the Curse of the Menstruating, Demon Vagina”, a highly feminist “critique” (more like “lambaste”) of this poll. You can take a read here: http://loquence.tumblr.com/post/4344696076 (However, before reading, I suggest that you grab a dictionary!)</p>
<p>Ok, now that all the details have been filled in, let’s get down to the nitty-gritty…</p>
<h2 class="blog_heading">The men: “Why so serious?”</h2>
<p>Now I know the saying goes, “ladies first”, but I decided to start with the men’s reaction first because just as far as men go, this is the simplest of the two. For them, this whole shenanigan was all a joke, and was only meant to be slightly offensive. In fact, the article was primarily intended for a male audience (and girls who could take a little toe-stepping), and the poll itself was based on the typical man conversation: girls. After all, what purpose would a guy have in life, if it wasn’t all about us? Sports? A conversation about sweaty men handling balls can only go so far with men (and if you read the hidden message behind that sentence, you’ll understand why). Cars? Maybe. But my guess is that most of the men who conducted this poll are “walkers” anyway. Besides, this poll wasn’t based on cars or sports, but <em>GIRLS</em> (did anyone else smell trouble?).</p>
<p>As far as the categories go, this is how men typically codify girls, not because they don’t value them, but because they’re simple and superficial. You would think that for a creature with two heads they would have more sense, but guys are naturally programmed to think with one head more than the other (and not the one with the sense, either). Guys aren’t overly deep, nor do they care if a girl knows what’s the square root of 9, or if she knows who’s Bob Marley, or what’s her position on global warming (some guys don’t even care about that stuff themselves). A man’s interest in a girl is <span style="text-decoration: underline;">primarily</span> based on her looks and her personality (I underlined primarily for a reason), and it may be a hard pill to swallow for some of you, but that’s just men. It’s how they’re programmed…</p>
<p>Sorry ladies, but this is the truth, and if you’re not ready to accept that, then you should not have even read the article to begin with. In case you didn’t read the disclaimer, in big red capitals, it was written: “<span style="color: #ff0000;">THE RESULTS OF THESE FINDINGS ARE FOR THE EYES OF GUYS ONLY SINCE THEY REPRESENT THE OPENLY EXPRESSED OPINION OF A SAMPLE OF MALES</span> […] <span style="color: #ff0000;">IF YOU CONTINUE READING, YOU DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK SINCE THERE IS A CHANCE THAT YOU OR SOMEONE CLOSE TO YOU MAY BE ON THERE AND MAY BE OFFENDED.</span>” Hey, he warned you…</p>
<p>Look, in a nutshell, this was just a conversation among simple-minded men about the thing they love most. Yes, some of the things that were said weren’t nice, but again, that’s how men are. They insult one another every day and think nothing of it, because that’s how they socialize. Furthermore, this poll doesn’t reflect a hard-and-fast notion that guys have about girls. <em>It’s not that serious. It’s MEN we’re dealing with here!!!!! </em>Not because they think that you’re a “Butter Face” or because you’re not one of the “Most Datable Girls” means that they still wouldn’t appreciate you because guys love all girls, no matter what.</p>
<p>Now let’s hear your side of it…</p>
<h2 class="blog_heading">The “womyn”</h2>
<p>Despite the fact that I know that many of you know that the guys only meant to slightly offend, some of the comments made and even the names of the categories were not only harsh but also degrading to some, and especially in the case of those who were nominated for these titles, it was probably hard to stay quiet. Did you guys ask for these girls’ permission for their name to be posted on the internet for all to see and know that they’re a “Menstruating Barbie” (aka a straight-up “bitch”), or, at least, that you came in at a close second? While we’re on this, what the h-e-double-hockey-sticks <em>is</em> a “Menstruating Barbie” anyway????? (I can see the ad now: “Comes with real pads and Women’s Tylenol”). This in particular implicates the entire female population, because of the reference to a regular female bodily function in parallel with the word “bitch” (which I’m going to get to in a moment).</p>
<p>Fellas, let me put this into terms you can relate to. How would you feel if your “most prized possession” happened to drop off and grow back every month in a process that lasted a whole week? To make matters worse, you can’t go swimming, but your guy friend can go to the beach in the tiniest bikini – I MEAN swimming trunks – and show off his stuff to this girl you’ve had a crush on for like, forever…you’d feel “bitchy” too, right???? *sigh*…Ok maybe you guys still can’t relate, but the point is that the menstrual period is a very sensitive topic for many woman, and we can’t help feeling moody (cause really, how would you feel wearing a diaper and feeling sticky goo dripping down between your legs every day for a whole week?). While I know you didn’t mean it like that, some felt that this reference was uncalled for and should not have been paralleled to “bitch”(couldn’t you have thought up of another name for this category? “Moody Judy” or “Fecal Attitude”, perhaps? I dunno&#8230;)</p>
<p>Going back to the “bitch” thing, in a guy’s world, name-calling and labeling may not be a big deal, but girls don’t take lightly to that sort of thing. They feel demeaned and disrespected when they are referred as “bitch”, “whore”, “slut”, and “chicks” (all of which were apparently used in the article), because in our world, these are <em>the last thing </em>we want to be known as, especially by the opposite sex. We feel the need to know that we are classy, sophisticated, and respectable. We’ve worked hard for gender equality, we’ve strived and continue to struggle to make something of ourselves in this “man’s world”, and we take great pride in our accomplishments and achievements in society. However, some of us are still touchy about the level of chauvinism in the society, and don’t appreciate our “standards” degraded by any man. I was trying really hard to avoid pulling out the feminist card here, but even though I didn’t take it personally, I must agree that the use of these names to describe womYn is explicitly chauvinist. NOT ONCE was a woman referred to as a “lady”. Come on guys, you’re making it hard for me to be impartial here…</p>
<h2 class="blog_heading">My reflection</h2>
<p>While this article may appear to be somewhat one-sided, I really did try to see this situation from both perspectives. For the women this wasn’t just a simple toe-mash, but a slap to the face, because it solidified society’s notion that we will never be good enough, being that we are women, and as such, men will never respect us and the next woman will always have the better body or the “Cutest Face”. Still I personally think that the women overanalyzed the whole thing and took it all too seriously. After all, does this poll define who I am, or who any of us are, for that matter? This was just a guy’s opinion (a <em>guy</em>!!!!!!) that wasn’t meant to generalize or stereotype, but when we allow it to have this kind of power over us, how does we overcome our own insecurities that we have as women?</p>
<h2 class="blog_heading">To the guys</h2>
<p>Men, if I tended to favor the “womyn”, it’s not because I am one, but because they are the ones who felt the most “victimized” by the entire ordeal. After all, what you did was blatantly disrespect us and then criticize us for being women because we tried to defend our honor. Still, you wanted to offend, and offend you did, but bear in mind that “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”, muchless an entire female population. That’s a fire you really don’t want to be playing with. Next time, for your own sake, if you choose to involve women in your convos, I suggest that you tone down the chauvinism, or better yet, keep it to yourselves. Really wouldn’t want any of you to wake up tied up to your bed with a pipe wrench to your nuts…</p>
<p>One last comment to the guys: I must admit, I admired the ingenuity of this whole idea, but what I really respected was the fact that you worked together, and kept it to yourselves until the very end. Even when shit hit the fan no one played the blame game, and most of you came to your brethrens’ rescue when the girls started acting up. I make no apologies in saying that this is one thing I’ll always respect the male population for, the ability to work together, stick up for each other, and keep it to yourselves, and we ladies really need to be more like that. After all, unity is strength, and once we continue to be a female population divided, this will ALWAYS be a man’s world.</p>
<p><em>Ok, here is where I turn up the REAL factor, and here I want to address the “womyn”…</em></p>
<h2 class="blog_heading">To the ladies</h2>
<p>I don’t usually use curse words, but whether or not my name was involved in this poll, I don’t give a flying fuck. I may not have even been nominated “Most Datable”, but hey, I’ve been in a relationship for quite a while (years, in fact), and you know what, if he decides to leave me for someone more datable, then I know at <em>least</em> a dozen men out there <em>right <span style="text-decoration: underline;">now</span></em> who would date me (yes I said <em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">date</span></em>, not just “sex off”), and if I made myself available, there’d be a dozen more where they came from, cause I’m a woman, and a <em>damn good one </em>at that. I may not be Miss “Best Personality”, but I know I’m fun-loving, exciting, love conversation, and I’m <em>not</em> stuck up. And whether or not I was nominated “Menstruating Barbie” aka “bitch” (or even if I were the winner), most of those guys that would have voted for me would  probably be the bitter ones that hold malice cause I didn’t give them the time of day, and they’d still “sex me off” or even “dey wid me” if did. Furthermore, if my name was mentioned in any of these polls, whether good or bad, I’d be flattered that over 100 guys took the time out to talk about me.</p>
<p>My point is that we’re too good to be taking on a meaningless poll conducted by a group of men with too much time on their hands. As a matter of fact, we’ve gone through too much and are still going through too much to let a stupid poll (among guys muchless!) question our integrity and self-worth as women. At the end of the day, it’s up to each and every one of us to know our value, because not everyone is going to have nice things to say about us. Realizing our own individual potential is power that no one can take that from us.</p>
<p>One final suggestion: ladies, ever heard of “don’t get mad, get even”? Cause really I would love to see a girls-only poll of guys which include the following categories: Pencil Dick, Most Broke-Ass, Most Disgusting, True Gentleman, Most Retarded. <em>Just throwing it out there</em> *angel face*.</p>
<p><strong>-A Chick</strong></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[About a month ago I was chilling with the guys and as usual the conversation switched to the topic of “chicks”. When this happens we talk about stuff like who looks good but we wouldn’t date, who we think looks the best, who is the most stuck up, etc. As usual, with each one (category/classification) [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About a month ago I was chilling with the guys and as usual the conversation switched to the topic of “chicks”. When this happens we talk about stuff like who looks good but we wouldn’t date, who we think looks the best, who is the most stuck up, etc. As usual, with each one (category/classification) a general conclusion could never be reached&#8230; <strong>EVER!</strong><span id="more-1442"></span></p>
<div id="attachment_1456" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://beefpattie.com/antigua%e2%80%99s-list-girls/discussion/" rel="attachment wp-att-1456"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1456" title="Real issues!" src="http://beefpattie.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/discussion-300x209.jpg" alt="old colonial discussion" width="300" height="209" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Been doing it for YEARS!!!</p></div>
<p>It was always a heated debate over why “this chick was more *insert adjective here* than this chick” and if left alone, the debate could go on for hours. I guess this is one of the ways in which males bond. Even if you’re the new guy in the group, the topic of chicks is the one topic that brings everyone together as if they were all long time homies.</p>
<p>This particular time when the guys were going on about who was the best looking girl in our high school days, I started thinking back to another moment in my teenage years.</p>
<p>Apparently, a group of peeps had gathered together back then (much like we were doing now) and were discussing who was the most slutty girl in Antigua. I’m guessing like us they couldn’t come to one conclusion so they decided to make a list of the top 10 names they could all agree on and gave a little description as to why this chick was on the list. The list was then “leaked” (distributed) and would eventually become known as <span style="color: #000080;">“the Antigua Top 10 Whores List”.</span></p>
<p>When this list came on the scene there was pandemonium. Guys were finding out their girls were cheating on them, the innocent church girl everyone thought was a virgin suddenly wasn’t, and a whole cluster of other stuff was brought to light. Social statuses were shifted and girls who guys never had on their radar suddenly were and were sought after. <em><span style="color: #000080;">Let’s be REAL, everyone likes a slut.</span></em></p>
<p>Anyone with a 1mb Hotmail inbox had a copy of the list and if I searched for it I probably still do. Another list was even made for the guys, but that only served as an ego boost to them because a guy being called a whore was just a compliment to his “game”. While laughing about this in my mind it suddenly hit me; “What if we made a list?”</p>
<p>No, not a list calling “sluts” out but a list that would be the end all definitive “bible” when it came to the stuff guys argued over in the realm of chicks. In it we’d list the categories guys argued over the most and get “everyone’s” input so we can conclude once and for all who is the most “whatever”. I didn’t bring it up with the guys then (since it would have been a biased list because of the small sampling), but I instead went home and gave it some thought and planed out. I needed to think BIG… or at least “bigger”…</p>
<div id="attachment_1446" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://beefpattie.com/antigua%e2%80%99s-list-girls/nominations/" rel="attachment wp-att-1446"><img class="size-full wp-image-1446" title="*whistles*" src="http://beefpattie.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/nominations.jpg" alt="spreadsheet printout mouse pen" width="300" height="225" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">&quot;The nominations&quot;</p></div>
<p>OK, fast forward to the day after and at the start of this month, I created a private event on Facebook and invited about 125 guys to it. I then listed 10 categories and asked the guys to nominate a winner for each of them and mail their nominations to this special address I had created. I then asked them to invite others and to ONLY invite other guys to participate. I said this because I knew if chicks got on to it they’ll ruin the surprise of the list being created or try to taint the results with their vanity. I must commend the guys on keeping it “guys only” during the nomination period, but I still wouldn’t be surprised if some punk let the secret out.</p>
<p>A street team was also assembled to get input from the guys we probably didn’t have on the FB event just to be sure we got the biggest sampling possible. I was even contacted on FB by dudes I didn’t even know to be given nominations. The three week nomination period ended Sunday with over 240 nominations from FB alone; most probably coming in within the last few hours.</p>
<p>For each category, the top five nominees (based on the amount of nominations they got) were selected and posted on the FB group as well as “inboxed” to a lot of others. The guys were then asked to vote for a winner in each category and maaaaannnn were they pouring in. Looking at the finalists, I can tell some chicks are going to be pleasantly surprised while others are going to be PISSED because their egos are going to be knocked down a few pegs.</p>
<p>A lot of these chicks I don’t know and few of them happen to be close homegirls of mine. While I can’t dictate who wins, I can give my opinion and I’ll do just that.</p>
<h2 class="blog_heading">Can’t please everyone</h2>
<p>As with most things involving humans, persons are going to get upset. Since this involves chicks, that statement is doubly enforced because well&#8230; you just can’t please them. The funny thing is that chicks are going to come on here to laugh at those nominated for some categories and scorn the chicks nominated in others. Despite even knowing they don’t “fit the bill” for some categories they’ll still want to be in there, and if they end up in another one they don’t like so much they are going to have sand in their vaginas.</p>
<p>Some people have already contacted me about removing certain categories and pleading for me to consider how some chicks may feel finding their names in them and even trying to claim that this list may be “slander” mainly because I’m publishing this on the internet. This however needs to be looked at as research and not just the opinion of Beef Pattie.com and its affiliates. Sure I could have just taken the information from the 500+ guys (75% of which I don’t even know), tallied the results and seek them out individually to let them know the findings, but that’s a lot of work. Added to that, “a police alone get pay fu cetch man” (only police officers are paid to track down guys) so that’d be kind of gay. <em><span style="color: #000080;">*Kanye shrug*</span></em></p>
<p>The internet is the fastest way to distribute the findings. A guy could just give another guy a link to see what the results of their votes were without having to be invited to a private FB group. I could say this post was “guys only” but there is no way I can make the blog detect when a chick is coming on it and withhold the information. It&#8217;s just like me getting 500 guys together and talking about it in a conference room. If a female just happens to walk into the conference room and hear us talking about her in a way she doesn’t like, then so be it. She shouldn’t have been poking her nose in there in the first place.</p>
<p>Anyways, here’s a disclaimer: <span style="color: #ff0000;">THE RESULTS OF THESE FINDINGS ARE FOR THE EYES OF GUYS ONLY SINCE THEY REPRESENT THE OPENLY EXPRESSED OPINION OF A SAMPLE OF MALES BETWEEN THE AGES OF 18 AND 27 (MOSTLY) IN AN ATTEMPT TO REPLICATE THE CONSENSUS OF ALL ANTIGUAN MALES WITHIN THAT AGE RANGE. IF YOU ARE A CHICK READING THIS RIGHT NOW I SUGGEST THAT YOU NAVIGATE AWAY FROM THIS PAGE. IF YOU CONTINUE READING, YOU DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK SINCE THERE IS A CHANCE THAT YOU OR SOMEONE CLOSE TO YOU MAY BE ON THERE AND MAY BE OFFENDED. THE FINDINGS OF THIS RESEARCH ARE FINAL AND WILL NOT (I REPEAT) WILL NOT BE TAKEN DOWN UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES SO DO NOT BOTHER TO ASK. </span>Now run tell that&#8230;</p>
<h2 class="blog_heading">The guy code</h2>
<p>In this world of “bitch niggaz” I pride myself in upholding the “guy code” and have the utmost respect for any guy who does this as well. When the nomination period started, I was pleased to see over the three week period that all the guys involved at that point respected the code even when they said they did not want to participate. I knew however that some spawns of Judas would manifest themselves once word got out to the chicks about what we were doing and they would show their true colors and sell us out for “30 pieces of silver” (poontang); most of whom will not be getting any despite their actions.</p>
<p>When the preview dropped this past Wednesday a frenzy was caused among the chick population and I knew some bottom feeding bastards would use this as an opportunity to try and score points with chicks because of their lack of “game”. As it was said, so it was done. The finalists were leaked and the group was compromised but I was already prepared for such a situation and alas my brothers’ identities were protected.</p>
<p>What these guys with short d!(ks and no balls didn’t realize is that you can’t really trust chicks. The same chicks some of them sold us out to still came back around to me and told me what they had and in some cases who they got it from and how (yeah I’ve got “pull” like that son). I’d publish the names of these dudes but I won’t pay them the time of day. Some may claim that they gave some chick their password and they logged into their stuff but to this I reply, “Grow some balls and tell a chick ‘NO!’ when she asks for your personal $h!t.”</p>
<p>I hope you guys have all daughters…</p>
<h2 class="blog_heading">“The List”</h2>
<p>Quick shout out to the peeps at AUA. You guys know what you did and I appreciate that ^_^. Also a very big shout out to the street team who ran with the idea and vision. Ya’ll should have helped counting these damn votes too but I’m not ungrateful. OK, now we’ve got all that out of the way let’s get to the good stuff.</p>
<h2>Butter Face</h2>
<p>This goes out to the chicks who we thought that everything on them looked good BUT their faces. Pretty much we were looking for girls who had a nice body but a face that could not only break mirrors, but reflective metal surfaces as well. Out of the 14 girls nominated, here are the top five finalists:</p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><strong>The black gyal that always inna Rush</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Alexa Perry</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Chioca Cannonier</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Karisa Christian</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Mercedes Ryan</strong></span></p>
<p><strong>Thoughts:</strong> When I saw these nominations I laughed my freaking head off. I saw the first few guys nominating “the black gyal that always inna Rush” I thought it was just them being goofs but then more and more guys started nominating her. I went to Rush last week but didn’t see her but I’m going to be on the lookout for her now since she came in a VERY close second. The person who beat her however ironically is a model. That means…</p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><strong>Winner: Chioca Cannonier</strong></span></p>
<h2>Menstruating Barbie</h2>
<p>To be blunt, the persons nominated here were all genuinely considered “bitches”. Despite them being somewhat good looking, it’s their attitudes that just drove guys to disliking them. Like you’d see them and think they are so well mannered but then they’d soon after do or say something that would probably make you regret knowing them in the first place. Out of the 26 girls nominated, here are the top five finalists:</p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><strong>Karolyn Mascall</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Snoodle Bug (not sure what her name is)</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Cherissa Collins</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> I. Dowe</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Nissa Butler</strong></span></p>
<p><strong>Thoughts:</strong> I only know two of the chicks here and I really don’t find them to be menstruating Barbies. I’m guess they just show me a different side of them when I interact with them but from some of the stories I’ve heard the guys tell, I can see why they are nominated. The person who won however I have no idea who she is but one thing for sure is that over 60% of the guys think she needs an attitude adjustment BIG TIME. This category wasn’t even anywhere close.</p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><strong>Winner: Nissa Butler</strong></span></p>
<h2>Most Delusional</h2>
<p>Basically the chicks nominated here think that they are sooo hott but when the guys see them out they think, “Who the fuck let this bird out the cage?” Despite saying “Hi”, smiling and exchanging nice words, we were probably secretly hoping she’d buckle and fall flat on her @$$ when she was walking away because she didn’t know the limitations of her looks. Out of the 23 girls nominated, here are the top five finalists:</p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><strong>Jessica Ryan</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Keva George</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Karisa Christian</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Alexa Perry</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Chioca Cannonier</strong></span></p>
<p><strong>Thoughts: </strong>The most shocking thing to me here was that three chicks who were overwhelmingly considered “butter faces” also thought that they looked good; so much so that they were nominated here too. Well, I guess it was bad enough for one of these said chicks to actually go on to win here. Advice? Try not to have such an assertive personality; it’s not a good look.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #000080;">Winner: Chioca Cannonier</span></strong></p>
<h2>Nuffest</h2>
<p>The chicks nominated here were not nominated because they turned down the mack game of a whole bunch of guys. They were nominated however because they possessed a personality that genuinely made them come across as unnecessarily bitchy. Not only that, but they were known to scorn and turn their noses up at the most minor or things while holding the idea that they were better than everyone else in the world and therefore should be worshipped. If you want it another way, “some bitches riding high horses and they needed to get knocked the fuck off them”. Out of the 18 girls nominated, these are the top five finalists:</p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><strong>Karian Weste</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Ntozake Malone</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> I. Dowe</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Gabrielle Nordé</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Anele Hurst</strong></span></p>
<p><strong>Thoughts:</strong> <span style="color: #000080;"><em>*really big gasp*</em></span> Phuq all them other chicks, how did Ntozake get on here? After scratching my head about that and wondering why Alisha Frederick wasn’t nominated much less on here in front of Karian, I sort of started to realize why each of these chicks were finalist. They all (with the exception of Ms. Dowe who I don’t really know) had “nuff” tendencies but it wasn’t really anything I’d nominate them for. Maybe they just act differently with/around me <em><span style="color: #000080;">*Kanye shrug*</span></em>. The winner here edged out Ms. Dowe by a mere four votes.</p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><strong>Winner: Anele Hurst</strong></span></p>
<h2>Suprisingly “Down To Earth”</h2>
<p>You could say that these girls were the exact opposite of the previous category. They give off the vibe that they are nuff, but when you take the time to get to know them, they are pretty cool and all the guys were glad to know them and have them as friends. Out of the 16 girls nominated, these are the top five finalists:</p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><strong>Marissa Scott</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Lieka Hewlett</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Karel Forde</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Charlene Wetherill</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Anthia Gardner</strong></span></p>
<p><strong>Thoughts:</strong> I didn’t even know who I would have nominated here or even vote for. What I can say though is that the winner had a landslide victory.</p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><strong>Winner: Karel Forde</strong></span></p>
<h2>Best Personality</h2>
<p>These are the chicks that you could take anywhere and around any crowd and they’d get along with everyone. Not only that, but their personality alone would make them PRIME “wifey” material. They had all the characteristics that a guy would look for in a potential wife and pretty much all of us think very highly of them. Out of the 12 girls nominated, these are the top five finalists:</p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><strong>Franchesca Sterling</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Ntozake Malone</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Tiffany Providence</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Stephanie Bridge</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Janelle Saunders</strong></span></p>
<p><strong>Thoughts:</strong> Before even accepting nominations I had three favorites to win this. Two were nominated and even made it to be finalists and I was so glad to see that one of them was eventually voted the winner here. The only person on this list I didn’t know was Stephanie Bridge but I’ve only ever heard good things about her when asked. I guess it’s safe to say that the guys had a hard time picking because this category was one of the closest ones since the margin between the person who got the most and the least votes was only 13.</p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><strong>Winner: Tiffany Providence</strong></span></p>
<h2>Best Body</h2>
<p>Without beating around the bush, the chicks here are the type of chicks we’d basically “eye fuck” the hell out of and would basically want to make porn with. Crude as this may sound it was said with all the respect in the world. Their bodies and how well they kept them could be said to have been of goddess standards (or at least in our sick, perverted, “hub”-infected minds). We’re talking &#8220;toned and defined&#8221; here people. You won’t find any chicks here just because they have big tits, wide hips or a big butt. <em>Yeah, we saw that beer belly hunny and we looked right past you.</em> This was the closest one in terms of nominees because the finalist here weren’t nominated above the others by much. Out of the 22 girls nominated, these are the top five finalists:</p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><strong>Sequoyah Survia</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Snoodle Bug</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Stephanny Rodriguez</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Melissa Kimberly Fletcher</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Tanya Rogers</strong></span></p>
<p><strong>Thoughts:</strong> I’m not going to lie, I favored Sequoyah to win before nominations started. However the guys schooled me to our winner and maaaaannnn, I think she deserved it. She has the biggest margin of victory for any of the categories and I WISH someone would tell me what her real name is because it’s driving me nuts calling her by her FB/nominated name!!! LOL <img src='http://beefpattie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://beefpattie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><strong>Winner: Snoodle Bug</strong></span></p>
<h2>Cutest Face</h2>
<p>This category needs no explanation. You’d see the chick’s face alone and you’d want to have sex with her… SIMPLE! OK, maybe not so simple… but these chicks had the faces that trophy wives are modeled after (REAL talk). Out of the 31 girls nominated, these are the top five finalists:</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #000080;">Tiffany Providence</span></strong><br />
<strong><span style="color: #000080;"> Lieka Hewlett</span></strong><br />
<strong><span style="color: #000080;"> Marissa Scott</span></strong><br />
<strong><span style="color: #000080;"> Sybil Ramrattan</span></strong><br />
<strong><span style="color: #000080;"> Ecclesiastes Jamela Elias</span></strong></p>
<p><strong>Thoughts:</strong> Man, this one was tough. I couldn’t pick a favorite because I thought they were all really pretty. Well, a winner needed to be selected and the guys did just that.</p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><strong>Winner: Ecclesiastes Jamela Elias</strong></span></p>
<h2>Overall “Crissest”</h2>
<p>These are the chicks with a really cute face and a body to match. Enough said! Out of the 19 girls nominated, these are the top five finalists.</p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><strong>Sequoyah Survia</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Ana Hernandez</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Stephanie Winter</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Melissa Kimberly Fletcher</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Consuelo Marzi</strong></span></p>
<p><strong>Thoughts: </strong>What I found ironic here was that whenever this topic came up and I said that Consuelo was probably the best looking girl I’ve ever seen here before I left for college, everyone would ask who the hell she was. She would have been my #1 pick and I was really surprised to see her even nominated and eventually be a finalist. I haven’t seen her in like four or more years but if she hasn’t gotten knocked up or let herself “go” like a lot of “once good looking” chicks I know here, I’d go on record and say she’s still the best looking chick in Antigua; PHUQ THESE RESULTS!!! <span style="color: #000080;"><em>*calms down*</em></span> Anyway, the guys saw things differently (what retards). Not that I’m saying the winner is bad looking (I don’t know her), I’m just saying I’m biased… <img src='http://beefpattie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><strong>Winner: Ana Hernandez</strong></span></p>
<h2>Most Datable Girl</h2>
<p>The chicks here were only nominated (or at least should have only been nominated) because they were the best of ALL worlds when it came to chicks. Looks (face and body), personality, educated/ambitious… all that “junk”. Probably one of the more disputed areas of conversation among us and probably will still be after these results, but these chicks are the most sought after by us. If any of them are single, we believe they are TRULY single (by choice and not for the lack of being wanted). Of this list they’ll probably be the most hated on, but nobody cares about the opinions of hatin’ @$$ “basic bitches”. You all could learn a lesson or two from them. Out of the 11 girls nominated (“ain’t that a bitch?”), these are the top five finalists:</p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><strong>Melissa Kimberly Fletcher</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Tiffany Providence</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Regina Adams</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Ntozake Malone</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #000080;"><strong> Nikki Charles</strong></span></p>
<p><strong>Thoughts: </strong>If I were to have had full control over nominations or finalists, this category would have only had three names on it; Tiffany Providence, Alana Michael, and Ntozake Malone. Phuq what anyone else has to say or will EVER have to say. These three young women are the most “datable” chicks in Antigua HANDS DOWN!!! <em>(no offence to the other gals nominated)</em></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #000080;">Winner: Regina Adams</span></strong></p>
<h2 class="blog_heading">The men have spoken</h2>
<p>So there you have it folks: “the list”. Yes I know it is not conclusive since not everyone will agree with it but it’s a start. Until someone else makes the effort and does more extensive research into the matter, this is the best thing we’ve got. Gentlemen, take your notes and realize which chicks you need to put on or take off of your radar. As for “The black gyal that always inna Rush”, somebody needs to link me up with an introduction so I can personally thank her for giving me four SOLID weeks of nonstop laughing. ARRRRR HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.<em><span style="color: #000080;"> *dead*</span></em></p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><em>*On account of EVERYONE rushing me so damn much, this post was not proof read. Any spelling or grammar mistakes blame your own damn self! Oh and the lack of &#8220;pretty pictures&#8221; to look at is your fault too!! <img src='http://beefpattie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> *</em></span></p>
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